Mexico vs Chile COPA AMERICA CENTENARIO: 0-7

The title says it all, Mexico lost 7-0 to Chile’s national team in Copa America Centenario’s final quarterfinal match up, and it is single handedly the worst loss for the Mexican National Team in all its history within Copa America participations. Mexico lost 7-0 in front of 70,547 TRI fans, who congregated at the Levi Stadium in Santa Clara. The Mexican fans began to leave the stadium early as soon as Mexico had allowed 4 goals in the 52nd minute.

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The goals kept on coming. Like a bad dream that you are unable to wake up from. Mexico could barely muster 40% possession in the entire 90 minutes. Mexico had only 1 shot on goal in 90 minutes, also a meager 75% passing completion rate. The Mexican midfield was ran off the field.

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Juan Carlos Osorio felt Mexico was still in the game, after all, Mexico was down 0-2 at halftime. He made 2 substitutions, took out Duenas and Chuky Lozano and debuted Gullit Pena and brought on Raul Jimenez. These changes had an immediate impact, by Mexico allowing 3 goals at the beginning of the 2nd half and be down 5-0. Clearly Mexico was done for, so Osorio took out an attacker, Tecatito Corona for a defender, Diego Reyes. That did not help, and Chile went on to score 2 more goals and the humiliation had come full circle for the Mexican National Team.

 

At this point, what does one do, in the same shoes as Juan Carlos Osorio. Coming from the hottest winning streak in Mexican history, to crashing 7-0 to the 5th ranked team in the world, Chile? You go on a apology tour of course. Most all the players, including Chicharito, who has been avoiding the press and mix zones in previous Copa America Centenario Matches, was the first to come out of the locker room and apologize to the fans via the press. Then one after another, national team member came and said sorry. They gave us their reasons, they said they backed the coach and that they trust him completely. They all sang the same song and dance.

 

Santiago Banos who is the sporting director for the Mexican National Team also came out, and declared that coming from a record winning streak, to this loss of this magnitude, it can be considered an accident of Futbol. Almost hinting at this will never happen again. He also stated that he backs Juan Carlos Osorio, and that there is no plan B to replace Osorio.

 

Maybe Mexico needed this painful defeat. This generation has been dubbed, the most talented in our storied history of this National team. Maybe we need to fall, to taste rock bottom. Another door closed for the Mexican National team. Let us ride into the sunset, until a new opportunity arrives for Mexico to rise once again, and other doors open in 2017 and 2018.

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Dorsal #12 Pancho Villa’s Army Los Angeles Chapter party it up before Mexico vs Jamaica @ the Rose Bowl

The Tamborazo could be heard as you drive up to the historic Rose bowl in Pasadena, on a sunny typical California day. When you park, you will be greeted by the sea of green, and I am not talking about the gorgeous grass on the golf course that serves as a parking lot for the Rose bowl, but the 83 thousand fans that packed the venue for the upcoming Copa America Centenario group C match, Mexico vs Jamaica.

Now enter the Pancho Villa’s Army Los Angeles Chapter contingent @PVALosAngeles into this mix and you get one of the best Futbol atmospheres in this Copa America Centenario, that had everything, Mexican food, Tequila, and just unbridled jubilation from all the Mexico fans.

The tequila and other assortment of spirits starts flowing, combined with some fantastic live Tamborazo + beautiful señoritas, Pancho Villa’s Army delivered a great tailgating spectacle  of epic proportions.

The party was so good, that Photojournalist @afroxander , could not fight off the temptation of such good offerings and forbidden fruits by the LA contingent Pancho Villa’s Army.

These Pancho Villa soldados were just getting ready for war in the stands, in one of the greatest arena’s known as Azteca del Norte, formerly known as the Rose Bowl in Pasadena California.

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As always, there are fans who come and are ready to deliver a message

Then the message got a political overtone, not that I blame them.

Pancho Villa’s Army was ready with the Tamborazo in the stadium, and unleashed a large TIFU, that went without incident, like it happened in Glendale Arizona vs Uruguay.

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The 12th player, has entered the arena, ready for battle.

Mexico vs Jamaica, Uruguay Eliminated, sets up a great match up at the Rosebowl

Mexico entered the Copa America Centenario Group C match with the news that Uruguay had been eliminated by Venezuela in the previous Group C match up. Jamaica cognizant that today, they had to win today in Mexico vs Jamaica at the Rose bowl in Pasadena, in order to have any chance to qualify to the quarterfinals. This proved to brew the perfect storm for an exciting back and forth match up that had rapid changing high’s and low’s during the entire match before a sold out Rose bowl in Pasadena.

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Mexico started with the same line up from its previous match vs Uruguay, except Jesus Dueñas was in for the suspended Guardado, and Juan Carlos Osorio opted to field Yasser Corona for Diego Reyes and Raul Jimenez for Javier Aquino. Chicharito +10 + the 12th Player were ready to take on the Jamaican team and qualify for the quarterfinals of Copa American Centenario.

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Mexico kicked off a match that will be remembered for the player rotation and at times a shaky defense. Mexico will score thanks to Chicharito scoring his 45th goal for the Mexican national team at the 18th Minute with a fantastic Header. Mexico stayed on the attack and kept pushing up with their 4-3-3 formation to the Jamaican goal guarded by the Andre Blake.

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Mexico maintained possession but was hampered by occasional turnovers by the defense. This emboldened Jamaica to play for the counterattack. That is when Yasser Corona stepped up and became the hero of the night, by saving the Mexican goal, and a combination of Ochoa’s trademark spectacular performances.

In the second half, Juan Carlos Osorio decided to change some inequities in the field and substituted Tecatito Corona for el Chuky Lozano. The key change that gave more balance in the midfield to Mexico, happened when Jesus Dueñas came off to give way for Jesus Molina. Eventually Chicharito came off and El Hermoso Peralta came on, which was a masterful key move by Juan Carlos Osorio, since Peralta scored and sealed the result for Mexico in the 81st minute. At that moment, it was checkmate. Jamaica says good bye to the Copa America Centenario with one match left to play.

Regardless of all the nitpicking on the defense that kept Jamaica with a clean score sheet, the 83,263 fans were treated to a fantastic night of back and forth Futbol, that will linger in their collective memories till the end of their times.

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Nestor Araujo gave us a small brief rundown on how the defense performed vs Jamaica, and he was kind enough to to answer a few questions about the match in the mix zone.

And Miguel Layun tells us what he thinks about him playing in a different position that he is used to

The 12th player Mexico vs Uruguay Copa America Centenario

 

Its 115 degrees outside the University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale Arizona, but that doesn’t seem to faze any of the Mexico fans. The fans are partying it up with the Pancho Villas Army, which are hosting a fan fiesta all out Pachanga at the Westgate Entertainment District.

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The beer, err excuse me, the Cerveza is flowing non-stop to the jubilant Mexico fans who are getting ready to support their team on Copa America Centenario’s debut match vs Uruguay on June 5th in Group C.

Pancho Villa’s Army setup the Pachanga at the Salt Tacos y Tequila restaurant, which allowed for non-stop celebrations 3 hours before kickoff. There was tamborazo, a Mexican music and traditional Puto chants all over the restaurant.

Inside the stadium, the Uruguay fans could not be left behind, they gathered by section 128 and started singing songs, but where expectedly drowned out by the Puto chants hurled at them.

 

This Mexican Lady won the night celebrations, seems like that is an indication of what is to come, when the 12th man takes the field

Mexico vs Uruguay Pre-match notes

Its 11 am and is 110 degrees Fahrenheit in another lovely Glendale Arizona morning, a perfect day to for a match of futbol today in Mexico vs Uruguay, today at 5 pm local time.

This will be the 10th time Mexico makes an appearance in the prestigious Copa America. Quite fitting that its their 100th anniversary, which makes Copa America the oldest tournament in the sport of Futbol. Mexico’s participation since 1993 has reaped a record of 17 wins, 12 ties and 15 losses while scoring 60 goals and receving 53.

 

A few notes:

Mexico’s head to head record vs Uruguay is 7 wins 7 ties and 5 losses.

In Copa America, Mexico leads the series vs Uruguay at 2 wins, 2 ties and 1 loss scoring 8 goals and conceding 6

In the last Copa America match ups, Uruguay beat Mexico 1-0 to a sub-23 Mexican team

Mexico destroyed Uruguay 3-1 with the help of the shooting star that glistened our collective watery eyes called Nery Castillo.

Mexico’s best ever finish was in their debut, Copa America 1993 in Ecuador and Copa America 2001 which was held in Colombia in which they finished runners up

Mexico has a record of 1 win, 3 ties and one 1 loss at the University of Phoenix Stadium. The lone win was vs Guadalupe in the 2009 Gold Cup. The one loss was vs the United States in Hugo Sanchez’s disastrous debut as manager with the Mexican National Team.

Uruguay has a record vs CONCACAF opponents of 3 wins, 3 ties and 3 losses in Copa America Tournaments.

 

We are ready

Press conference prior to Mexico vs Uruguay with Juan Carlos Osorio y Andres Guardado

The press conference at the University of Phoenix Stadium was brief and Juan Carlos Osorio repeated ad naseaum that he hopes Luis Suarez plays tomorrow, so we can play against the best Uruguay has to offer. Andres Guardado was mostly asked about the functionality of the team and how the “Puto” chant can harm the national team with sanctions and fines. Both Osorio and Guardado are optimistic of Mexico’s chances tomorrow in the group stage match up Mexico vs Uruguay.  Juan Carlos Osorio thanked the fans for their passionate support, and both Osorio and Guardado admit that the fans are the 12th player in the match. Osorio is concerned that Juergen Damm was not match fit, but is confident that his time to shine will come. Osorio alluded to the fact that he is only 23 years old, and with the possibility of still going to Europe.  Tomorrow a great game awaits us.

JCO talks tactics vs Uruguay:

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Jesus Dueñas says Uruguay is not as dynamic as Chile

Blessed by the Arizona 114 degree weather, the team changed their training venue from the originally planned outdoor training grounds at the Grand Canyon University, to the comfortable closed ceiling of the University of Phoenix stadium. Once the training was over, the team was bused to the Westin Hotel in Downtown Phoenix, and Jesus Dueñas @jessusduenaz29 and Jorge Torres Nilo @jorgetorresnilo made themselves available for a quick press conference at the aforementioned Westin Hotel.

 

 

So there you have it, According to Jesus Dueñas, Chile was a more dynamic opponent that Uruguay will be, therefore it will be an interesting match to watch.

A quick USMNT and Mexico, Copa America take

copa-amercoa-centenario-usaCopa America is Today! The excitement begins. So let me just make a quick and possibly obvious observation on the USMNT and Mexico teams for this tournament.

Lets look at the preparation games played by these teams. US played Puerto Rico, Ecuador and then Bolivia. Puerto Rico is a very poor team and more like a cascarita than a real game. US won easily, but did get a goal scored against them. Ecuador, is a bigger challenge of course. US came up with their typical strong defense and late goal to get the win. A late goal and the way the game was played gave Ecuador the ability to say that it was an even and well played game. That it was an unfortunate goal that just came late. Then the Bolivia game, is another easy game vs the bottom of the CONMEBOL table.

Basically the US taking it easy for prep games. I will say prep games may mean very little. It is the play in the actual tournament that counts.

Keep that in mind as we now shift gears to Mexico. El Tri played vs Paraguay and then Chile. Many said the Paraguay game was not needed, and just a Chile matchup would be sufficient. A 1-0 win vs Paraguay is expected. It is the 1-0 Chile win that is interesting. Chile is the defending Copa America champion. They have the likes of Alexis and that drunk guy with a mohawk, Vidal. They play in Europe with vital teams. Yet they still lose to a lowly Mexico. Chicharito scores a late goal to stun the Chilenos. Now much of this game, Mexico was defending and not possessing like they normally do. It could be said it was not the best game for Mexico and that Chile deserved more. Mexico however with a threat like Chucky Lozano and great passing by Miguel Layun gave Mexico the opportunity to win off the head of Chicharito. A late goal that didn’t give enough time for Chile to react. Especially since they subbed out Vidal and Alexis. A win by Mexico that seemed very much like the USMNT wins.

So no need to be fully impressed by either teams. The Chile win by Mexico should give more hope than any of the 3 USMNT wins, but that is not saying much based on Mexico’s overall play vs Chile.

Enjoy the Copa!!!

Brandy, Cigars, Gio, Chivas, and Liga MX Semis

It is time for another edition of the gentlemen’s agreement.  In this installment soccerchronicle.com ‘s John Jagou and futmexsource.com ista Joel Aceves hash out the Gio mess, Chivas’ new media leap, and the Liga MX semifinals.

John Jagou:  I was very surprised that Gio did not make Copa America. I am not surprised that FMF bungled the whole thing up. One day these guys will get their stories straight.
Joel Aceves:  I am also surprised Gio was left out not only becaause of well he has been playing with the Galaxy, but also what he means to the national team. Still, there is hope that he gets capped for the Olympics.
 
JJ:  It used to be for years, decades even, that Mexico did not have the depth to omit players of Gio’s quality. Mexico does have quite a bit of depth now, which is why Osorio can live without Gio for now. He has Tecatito and Chucky.  The guy who was expendable was Jurgen Damm.  Damm is fast, talented, but he is no Gio. Not having Gio on the team will now rachet up the pressure on Osorio. If the expectation of making the semifinals is not met, the press will crucify Osorio for this decision.  But they will crucify him for any and all missteps.
JA:  It reminds me of Bora’s second run with the national team in the late 90s. He was criticized for not calling Carlos Hermosillo. Good ol Velibor would then piss off the press by saying he respected their opinions. Knowing FMF there’s a number of reasons why Hermosillo was sidelined and even after Manuel Lapuente replaced Bora, el Grandote de Cerro Azul remained absent from the Tricolor.
With Gio I get the feeling there’s a question of sponsorship behind Osorio’s announcement that the reasons for Gio being left out will remain between them.
 
JJ:  The worst part is how many people believe the coach when Gio said he had declined. Then said it would be unethical for me to talk about the reasons. WTF
 
JA: My take is that FMF has stipulation with TRI sponsors that require Gio to be present in big games-events. And Osorio leaving him out, in my own opinion based on tactical reasons, causes a problem that is easily resolved by claiming the player asked to be left out.
 
JJ:  The worst part of the whole thing was Gio making press junket appearances without his people having any idea that the list was being released in the middle of said appearances. He was live on the radio with Grant Wahl as the list was being released. Grant asked him why did you decline the call? Gio was shell shocked.
 
JA:  I missed that interview. Fellow Deuce podcaster Beto kept referencing it and looking for the clip to no avail. I did see Televisa interviewing Gio at a supermarket whilst he promoted head and shoulders and his replies and body language tell me he really wanted to play the Copa America.
 
JJ:  Gio knows that Tri appearances are what have given him the career he has. It certainly hs not been his club career.  It makes no sense that he would turn it down. SUM and MLS were depending on him to play. It was a big black eye for them both.  Like I said earlier, Mexico might have more depth now, but shutting out a difference maker like Gio is not a good decision.And I do not think it was Gio’s.

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The Gentlemen Break Down the Liguilla

In the latest edition of the (and freshly rebranded) Gentlemen’s agreement, (nee Weekend at Joely’s) futmexsource.com correspondent Joel Aceves and soccerchronicle.com writer, John Jagou take a look at the 3 big mid-week fixtures, including Pumas’ Libertadores quarterfinal.

 

John Jagou:  I felt bad for Gullit this weekend. He could have increased his hit points and attained legend level status with Chivas fans, but the cross bar said otherwise. And then our friend Oribe scores another huge goal to add to his legend.  It is why Osorio has to take him to Copa America. There is no Mexican player who has come up as big and as consistently as Oribe over the past decade.

 

Joel Aceves:  Gullit has gained a reputation for lacking testicular fortitude.  It is the alleged he lost his starting spot in Mexico’s World Cup squad.  Agreed on Oribe, he even has shown to have the quality to bench Javier ‘Chicharito’ Hernandez! In any case the Horrible One should be a welcome addition to either Olympic or Copa America squad.

 

JJ: I do recall hearing the same thing about Gullit, that he did not deal well when the pressure was ratcheted up, and it cost him in Brazil. You saw some of that when he first played with Chivas, but it seemed like Almeyda had gotten him to calm down and not press. Regardless, the season overall was a good turn of events for Chivas. If they can manage to avoid a slump in the coming Apertura, they can finally, after 3 years, exorcise the relegation fantasma. That should help them play with a lot more confidence. It has been a while since I have said this, but I am bullish on Chivas, provided they find a goal-scorer.

 

JA:  Mexico Boss Juan Carlos Osorio claims that it was his call to Gullit that set the player straight. He is on record saying that he talked to el Lagrimas Esmeraldas and told him to set aside his personal problems and that if he regained his level he would be called up to the national team again.

Next season will be key for Chivas, which have already climbed to 13th place of the relegation chart. Below them are Atlas, Morelia, Puebla, Veracruz, and whichever team gets promoted (either Necaxa or Juarez). As for finding a goal-scorer, Chivas’ best bet will be their Cantera,

 

JJ:  Over to America. As much as it pains you to admit, you have to be really impressed with the job that Ricardo Peláez has done at Club América several years ago. The club was in complete disarray, even flirting with relegation before he took over. Since then, they have become the model club in Liga MX.

In a sense, he has made America hated again. 4 titles with 3 coaches, but with essentially the same base of players. If they manage to win the title this season, it will be even more impressive because they will have defeated 3 of the 5 best teams in the league this season.

 

JA: On the contrary John, I’ve actually been an advocate for Peláez as it was a welcome change in Liga MX. Nestor de la Torre had been doing a similar job at Chivas. Granted not as successful but the team was very consistent:  won the league title, then played two semifinals after that, in addition to a Copa Libertadores final.  It is no coincidence that the club fell apart once he left.

With Peláez, I like that America’s board of directors have given him complete confidence to run the club.   In the past we have seen coaches come into a club like a snake oil salesman, making big promises.  The club would then supply Mr. Snake Oil a brand new roster of players, and when that coach’s fails to meet the high expectations he had set himself,  it’s on to the next quick fixer.

Peláez has shown that long term planning has its merits. He sacked coaches that were not willing to be part of the club’s process. Those were risky moves on his part as was hiring the low profile Ignacio ‘Nacho’ Ambriz but the club’s success has shown that Peláez has been right all along. My hope is for more Liga MX clubs to take this approach as I feel it will lead to a more competitive league.

 

JJ:  I am not so sure your fellow Chivas compatriots would understand or appreciate your healthy respect for Club América’s recent fortune. Some maybe asking to revoke your credentials. But there is something to be said about continuity. And it makes much more of an impact when a club with America’s pedigree succeeds because of it. If Liga MX turns into a copycat league, then, as you stated, the league will become more competitive.

A certain degree of continuity also be used to describe how Pachuca and León have worked themselves into the top echelon of the Liga MX as well. Both of them had good wins to advance to the Liguilla semis, where they will face each other. Pachuca’s kids are fun to watch, but Leon’s Elias Hernandez has been spectacular this season. He deserves a chance to play in Copa America.

 

JA:  No need to revoke my Goat creds.  I’m about to hand them in myself. Chivas CEO (Jose Luis Higuera) and General Manager (Jaime Ordiales) are known Americanistas. And the club owner (Jorge Vergara) is rumored to be an Atlista. His first foray into Liga MX was to sponsor Atlas and then even tried to buy them. I maintain hope that Vergara’s ex wife Angelica Fuentes, who owns 49% of Chivas, will sell her shares to a proper investor that can then buy out Jorge. Cough Slim Cough

While Leon and Pachuca have been on the right path it is America that has taken the spotlight. For the greater good of the league, America’s success in Concachampions, and even at the Club’s World Cup can influence other clubs to take the same approach:  having a set of goals to reach instead of betting on a coach and mid-season transfers to turn things around.  Last season Cruz Azul brought in Eduardo ‘Yayo’ de la Torre as GM, so it will be interesting to see how much freedom he will have to shape the club. As we can see Yayo has bet on continuity with Tomas Boy remaining at the helm. In the past he would of been gone once the final match-day whistle signaled the Maquina’s latest fracaso.

 

JJ:  Pumas did the same with Antonio Sancho. And they also were judicious in their recent acquisitions — most already Liga MX veterans.  They may not be in the liguilla, but their season is not over yet.

And we can also say that this season was one that was not pockmarked by coach firings. In the not so recent past, it was normal to have 6-10 coaches given the boot at midseason. Some teams would have 3 coaches for the 17 games. So maybe this is the new normal in Liga MX.

The king of continuity is Tuca Ferreti.  Tuca has coached Tigres for 6 years, which is incredible for Liga MX. It is unfortunate that the series with Monterrey was marred by bad officiating and then baiting Tuca into one of his classic eruptions. What the press won’t show, though, is Tuca going back and calmly answering questions.

 

JA:  Well then, I guess we can say that the trend is catching on. We can add Toluca to the list who under Jose Saturnino Cardozo played two Liguilla semifinals. And like Pumas dominated the Copa Librtadores group stage. Unfortunately, Toluca had one bad game against a Brazilian giants Sao Paulo.

That said both Pumas and Toluca failed to make the Liguilla, which I blame on the short season which, ironically, has been one of the most influential factors in Liga MX club owners’ erratic behavior in their quest for instant results with the quick fix.

 

JJ:  I don’t mind that Pumas didn’t make the liguilla. I would much rather they focus on the Libertadores anyway, which they can do now without any distractions. A few years ago when Monterrey won their first title under Vucetich, they chose to play the Libertadores with reserves. The reigning champions at the time had an opportunity to measure themselves against SA’s best, and they play with reserves.  Baffling!

Take the shot when you have it because you never know when you’ll get another chance.  Pumas has a legitimate shot at the semis after a 10 year absence in the tournament. It is a busy midweek schedule. Pumas vs Independiente del Valle (ECU) on Tuesday, América-Rayados Wednesday, and Leon-Pachuca Thursday. Who you got?

 

JA:  I’m going with Pumas over Independiente not just because they represent Mexican soccer but because I’d like to believe we have a better league than Ecuador.

In my opinion America-Rayados is the final adelantada and the winner should lift the Liga MX title. I got the sense that Rayados showed some weakness against Tigres in the quarterfinals that America can exploit. So, I will side with the Wilas on this one.

Leon-Pachuca is the Grupo Pachuca Clasico. We’ve all seen what happens when teams owned by the same owner meet: the main club gets favored and in this case it’s the Tuzos.

So, we can be seeing an America vs. Pachuca final: two clubs that have bet on a long term project and continuity. Maybe this is becoming a trend. Latest news is that Vergara offered Matias Almeyda a five year coaching contract.

 

JJ:  I also hope to see Pumas through, but it will be a lot tougher than people expect.  Independiente did just bounce none other than the defending champs, River Plate.  So they are no pushover by any means.

Monterrey’s discipline will make Club America unravel, and Pachuca will prevail over Leon because the last time they played in the liguilla, Leon won.

It’s daddy’s turn.

As always a pleasure, Joel.

 

JA:  Same here.  I am really enjoying these chats.

 

JJ:  As am I.  Hopefully the readers are as well.

 

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