Ep. 50: Dos a Zero Futbol Podcast – Chivas v Aguilas talk, Pulido, Nacho and more!

Ch14_Lots to talk about with the Chivas 3-0 win over America. Chivas has high spirits, even Jorge Vergara is saying that they have the best team in Mexico and Pulido is rounding out the team greatness as he arrives this week in Guadalajara.

We talk America and Nacho Ambriz, who happened to explode on a journalist saying that if he doesn’t win a title this year, then he will resign. CopaMX may be his main avenue for fulfilling that statement.

We also talk how this affects the National team and Juan Carlos Osorio. Tune in vatos!

Chivas is the greatest! Fuera Nacho! Why am I YELLING?!

Screen Shot 2016-08-31 at 2.40.01 PMAmerica loses 3-0 to Chivas in the Clasico Nacional. Chivas brings Alan Pulido to the Sacred Herd. Chivas is going to win it all right? LigaMX champs, CopaMX champs, then maybe a CCL or Libertadores? This is the super team in Mexico right now.

As far as America, well, they are in a crisis. Nacho Ambriz is getting upset with reporters, saying he will quit if he doesn’t get a title this year. Fans outside Coapa are protesting and yelling, “Fuera Ambriz”. America is going down hill right?

Calm down a second, big fella. Didn’t Chivas just lose a few weeks ago 4-0 to Xolos? Wasn’t America favored by many to win the Clasico Nacional because of their tremendous individual talent. All of a sudden all this changed? I don’t think so!

Let’s look at the Clasico Nacional. Chivas came out running like crazy, hustling to gain posession and go on the attack. Their movements worked out perfectly against America. Their passing was probably the best they have had all season. Everything worked out, every 50/50 ball, every deflection was in favor of Chivas. This game definitely went Chivas’ way, but would that always be the case. Are they now expected to win their next 5 games in a row? How long until they come back to reality, even with Pulido?

I would go as far to say, the Chivas win was a glitch in the Matrix. An Anomaly. America has the talent to do better, Chivas has been underperforming and supposedly doesn’t have any goal scoring strikers. People are surprised and worried that the National team has to now call the likes of Chivas striker, Saldivar. My question is, who would win in a 7 game series between Chivas and America. Sure that is far fetched, but in the NBA this is done to determine a true winner, that can not just win a fluke game, but endure a series of competitions.

If this were to take place, I would have to say that America wins a best of 7.

Point of this post is that we need to calm our britches. Be measured in our analysis of these results. There are still games to be played and lost or won.

I understand it is hard, when you have people like Vergara saying that Chivas is now rounding out to be the best team in Mexico. Calm down Jorge!

Psychoanalysis of the Club America vs Chivas Super Clasico

What a fun game for an indifferent Pumas fan. So let’s begin.

Paul Aguilar StompThe game starts out very well for Chivas. The showed heart and hustle as an obvious underdog, battling relegation. It is a sign of a good attitude in the locker room to motivate a team that has been struggling, to step it up against their greatest rival. Who knows if it was Almeyda or Captian Omar Bravo who motivated them, but they came out with energy and on the attack. Even amidst negativity in the media, gossip about Gullit drinking, and relegation. In times like this, a team can come out half hearted or beaten before the game begins, or battle back as an underdog. Chivas came out as the latter.

Chivas attacking paid off and Conejo Brizuela got a goal in the 23rd minute, however it was called off. There was no dispute that he was offsides and that the goal should not have counted. The problem is with the side line ref, in that he hesitated to make the call and had to meet with the head ref to talk and call back the goal after the fact. This can play an issue in the mind of the Chivas players. The goal was scored, a whistle was not blown and Brizuela celebrated with his teammates as he pointed to the heavens. It is a glorious moment to have scored against your arch enemy. Then imagine how Brizuela and Chivas feel after it is ripped away from them. It has to be saddening and depressing. Again Chivas would have to dig deep and self motivate their mind and body to continue playing. This seemed to be the case, but you could tell there was a drop in play. America gained their composure and was able to get more possession and opportunities for attack.

We now know America scored 2 great goals, to take a commanding lead. This again can put a psychological burden on a down and out Chivas team. They still, however, battled and did not give up. They were running on pure passion.

So let’s talk passion. Passion is what brings fans to the stadium. Passion and love for their teams is what makes people yell, cheer and be loyal even through hard times. The deep desire to win is what motivates Chivas or America players to run hard after a ball. And Yes, sadly it can motivate fans to throw obscenities and even objects at the opposing team. It is no surprise to see this happen. Yes it is ugly, but these fans have passion. It may not be properly focused but it is passion. It is this same passion that would make Santos fans insult the Mexican NT hero Giovanni Dos Santos. Even a Chivas fan who threw a cup of beer at CONCACAF Cup hero Paul Aguilar and hit him in the back.

This passion even exists for players to do whatever it takes to win or get an advantage. Paul Aguilar has passion in the instances where he gets stomped on in the corner and proceeds to flop around like Pikolin did in last year’s Liguilla. His goal was fulfilled as the Chivas player got red carded and America took the advantage. He did the same later, when the cup of beer hit his back and he rolled around some more. He want’s to win and this is the type of things that sometimes needs to be done. Is it hated, yes, but it will continue to happen. Just like beers will continue to fly, so lets get over it.

Finally, to touch on a word that is commonly used in spanish, Ardido. This means rustled, upset, salty or many other adjectives that could be used to describe Omar Bravo near the end of the game. You could tell he was frustrated and in one instance he got hacked, fell to the ground and the America player got sent off. He then proceeds to run away and heads straight to Sambueza and hits him chest to chest. This was of course purposefully done as he was heated in the moment. Luckily he did not get carded himself, because he was carrying a yellow previously. This “rustle” on the part of Omar Bravo could have cost him the concentration and cool head he needed in later opportunities he had to score, but failed.

So the mind, emotions can play a huge part in Futbol. This type of passion, energy and competitiveness is what makes this Clasico the best in Mexico. Yes even greater than the Clasico Regio, which may have better teams that are higher on the table, the Clasico Nacional has more on the line, for fans and players.