Chivas always seems to take the spotlight in the show, this time in failure. We also discussed the Pumas disaster and heard from Lady Puma complaining to 3 players. We even discussed Non Soccer Related stuff like Beisbol, tacos, mean soccer coaches and more!
Episode 82 and we were podcasting while Chivas was working to get a tie vs Morelia, but won on PKs. We discussed mostly the Higuera visit that he paid to Spicy Soccer. The ChivasTV failure, Gentlemans pact, his Hugo diss, and more.
We also discussed some MLS v LigaMX talk towards the end of the show.
Hope you enjoy.
Also congrats to all you Chivas fans out there. LOL. CopaMX Champs!
Woah! This episode had some heated and argumentative discussion and it was all Juan Carlos Osorio’s fault. Luckily, here on the CantinaMX podcast, we don’t get our feelings hurt. Unlike Jesus Corono who was crying because the refs bully him and make him sad with their inults and burlas. LOL. We discuss this as well as CCL action. We neglected the CopaMX talk, probably because we were missing our resident Chivistas.
The heat came when the JCO hate came. We also had passionate discussion on the reffing situation and how they are not angels themselves. We also talked about the Brazilian criminal who got out of jail and was still able to sign with a Futebol Club!
This was a fun episode. We had phone lines open, a couple listeners called in. We discussed the recent injuries, hard tackles and deserved discipline. Can the violence be fixed, are refs doing a poor job in protecting the players?
All the while, in CopaMX action Toluca were given 3 red cards and Pablo Aguilar from America head butted a ref. Things are getting crazy.
We also take a rare look at Europe and the UEFA CL game between Barca and PSG. Historic comeback and blah, blah. 😀
Thanks for tuning in!
Then Chivas talk takes over, as they win in CopaMX. Drama on U-20 players is discussed and lots more. Check us out the audio on iTunes or your preferred podcasting app.
Why is the Mexican League is full of South American players from Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and other countries? Recently Matias Almeyda made some comments about this, so lets analyze and expound.
Matias Almeyda, Chivas head coach, stated what we have all heard before and what we have specifically talked about on the CantinaMX podcast. That foreign players are brought in and take the starting spots of up and coming or even established Mexican players. This in turn hurts the National team and Mexican players in general. There may be Mexican players that don’t get a chance and get passed up from making it big in Mexico and even ending up abroad.
Almeyda faults the Foreign coaches in Mexico that are hired instead of Mexican coaches, who in turn look to bring in foreign talent.
A great example is just recently Club America brought in a 19 year old Costa Rican player, Gerson Torres. Is he a big name? An impact player that will change America for the positive? Many may not even have heard of him. Could a Mexican player have been given a chance? Possibly.
When I think of America, I think of big signings. They could be South American or Central American, but big names, who would start and be expected to score goals and even win titles. The supporting players can be Mexican, with a few star Mexican players as well. No need to flood Mexico with subpar foreigners, when there are plenty of Mexican players already that need the chance to play so they can break out and hopefully do good things.
Why does Mexico go for foreign coaches and then players?
So this is the question. I believe that the mindset in Mexico, is that of looking at history and World Football. Argentina, Brazil and CONMEBOL as a whole is a powerhouse. They have won World Cup titles, there are coaches out of these countries who are highly praised. If one is to learn soccer and how to improve, we must emulate and follow these countries. Mexico has done this. Fans emulate and copy Argentina fan chants and songs. Mexico execs, see this as well and try to bring in the biggest names from South America as they can. If it were easier to get European coaches or players, that would be the same case. A flood of Europeans would be welcomed to help improve our Mexican soccer.
Take Andre-Pierre Gignac for example. He is beloved and brought titles to Tigres. Mexican’s name their kids after him. Tigres went further and brought in fellow frenchman, Andy Delort, into Tigres.
The point is clubs are out to win and confidence is held in foreigners and not the Mexican. Foreigners from Argentina and Brazil know how to win in soccer and have loads of good players. Mexico has won nothing. Mexicans are just barely breaking into Europe on a larger scale.
Take even the press for example. We have the wanna-be Spaniard heading up shows like Futbol Picante and cracking jokes on the other panelists. One of the biggest targets and butt of jokes is Hector Huerta, if you have ever watched the show.
In summary, there is a mindset in Mexico that has to be overcome. The Mexican player has to overcome and play through these obstacles. Chivas is a huge part of it. Chicharito broke through via Chivas and may not have in another club where foreigners were in place.
Hopefully some rule changes can help push this change along. The National team may depend on it after this “golden generation” passes.
We also talk US vs Mexico coming up. Good fun was had by all.
On the Messi penalty, we talked both sides of if the “provoking” Messi penalty, as well as CR7 comments about the great MSN (Messi, Suarez, Neymar).
Some panelists also rejoiced as Chivas got a CopaMX win vs Leones Negros. Also Toluca came out strong winning their initial Libertadores game.
It was a lot of fun, check it out…
On Episode 6 of Los Cachirules Big Soccer Mexico’s ‘Catrachito’ joins the cast to talk about all things Honduras and lets listeners know what to expect from the Tricolors fourth round qualifying group rivals. Joely laments the demise of Chiva~Cola as Goat sympathizers Christian and Juan praise coach Matias Almeyda’s influence in the club’s Copa MX win. The always mysterious John Jagou talks about pointy ball, Albert is not impressed with Cortes ‘Maradonian’ goal, Fernando drops Zingers, and Rony finally stops talking about lose balls as the group tries to forget Mexico’s U-17 Bullying by Nigeria.